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MAX CAVALERA – VJERNIK

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    MAX CAVALERA – VJERNIK

    Ovaj čovjek me inspirirao. Nisam ja doživio neko obraćenje zbog njega, dugo se borim, ali on me uputio na ono pravo, ono bez čega ne možeš ići dalje.
    NEKAD SE MORAŠ VRATITI NAZAD DA BI IŠAO DALJE!
    Ono najdublje, istinu, korijene, kako se zove jedan album (Roots)njegova bivšeg benda, Sepulture(hrv. Grobnica).
    Nisam ni ja donedavno imao visoko mišljenje o ovom stilu metala, pjevanja, konto sam neke budale, fejkeri, ali kada sam pročitao tekstove e onda je sve dobilo smisao.
    Većina vjerovatno ne slušao nešto ovako, ali pokušajte zanemariti žestoku svirku, pa i nije tako žestoka!, koncetrirajte se na osjećaje, na ono što govori.



    Roots Bloody Roots(x4)

    I
    Believe in our fate
    We don't need to fake
    It's all we wanna be
    Watch me freeeaaak !!

    I say
    We're growing every day
    Getting stronger in every way
    I'll take you to a place
    Where we shall find our

    Roots Bloody Roots(x4)

    Rain
    Bring me the strength
    To get to another day
    and all I want to see
    Set us free

    Why
    Can't you see
    Can't you feel
    This is real
    Ahhh

    I pray
    We don't need to change
    Our ways to be saved
    That all we wanna be
    Watch us freak

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    Nejmojte odmah pomisliti da sam ja neki njegov ludi fan, on je za mene strašan primjer pravog vjernika, više mi je pomogao nego ijedan svećenik do sada!
    Što vi mislite o njemu? Možda se ovi, što misle da su vjernici uglavnom zatucani licemjeri, malo zamisle.
    A evo i jedna njegova zgodna izjava:
    I do hate a lot of 'religion' but people like Christ - yeah they inspire me. I mean if you look at Christ, He was hanging around with the lowlifes, prostitutes and the losers you know, not going around with those high society motherfuckers you see trying to sell Jesus today!

    Također su ga pitali je li on kršćanin, je li Soulfly(njegov sadašnji bend) kršćanski bend:
    No. I mean, if I was a Christian I would wear all these different kinds of omens. Because Christian people are so close minded. A priest would not accept that. So I don't like the concept of Christianity in terms of being so close minded. It is the same with music. Sometimes I compare preachers to close minded musicians or close minded listeners, who only like one kind of music. Some preachers are the same. And they don't tolerate Hindus, Buddhists or whatever. Only them. It's bullshit. So Soulfly is not a Christian band at all. Very much opposite. But we are very spiritual. Spiritual has nothing to do with Christianity anyway. It has been here since the beginning of time.

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    Evo još jedna pjesma, tekst, bit će ih još.

    Enterfaith

    Now...
    Frustration turning, turning around
    Stomping the feet, moving the ground
    All the barriers unbound
    Unexplained, it can't be found

    Now...
    Motivation comes from beyond
    Purity like the unborn
    Riding the storms
    The storms

    Enterfaith
    Deeper and deeper in every way
    Enterfaith
    Penetrates the wound again
    (x2)

    Now...
    It's not what you see, it's what you feel
    You can not explain, but it's so real
    This is our fate, no one can kill
    From birth, this has been sealed

    Now...
    Forever and ever without an end
    Follow your heart, never pretend
    The last will be first, it has been said
    So I say

    Enterfaith
    Deeper and deeper in every way
    Enterfaith
    Penetrates the wound again
    (x2)

    Faith...On and on
    Faith...To carry on
    Faith...No transgression
    Faith...Is a weapon

    Faith is a weapon

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    Ovdje mu je frizura cool!
    Back To The Primitive



    Da ne bi bilo komplikacija… Moderatori, znam da ovo nije dio foruma za glazbu, pokušat ću to svesti na minimum, ali ne stavljam ove clipove radi glazbe.

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    Nemojte misliti da ću ja sada zbog njega pustiti kosu do poda, postati frontmen heavy metal benda. Bliže sam tome putu bio prije nego sam počeo slušati njega i njegov bivši, Sepulturu, i trenutni bend Soulfly. I on sam kaže da svatko mora naći svoju sudbinu. Ne dižem ja sada njega u nebesa, ne bih ni smio, on mi je samo ukazao na ono što je meni malo pobjeglo iz fokusa… ISTINU!
    Evo još jedan tekst na brzinu!

    FLYHIGH

    Pressure building on my soul
    I ask God to take control
    Guide me through this fucked up world

    Conquer this fear spiritually
    Forever let it be
    Into infinity

    Against all odds we carry on
    Like we always did before
    Soulmate forever more

    I feel your presence everyday
    It's so real in every way
    Give God thanks and praise!

    Just let my soul fly free
    And let me be the one God wants me to be
    Just let my soul fly free
    And let me see everything I'm supposed to see

    Just let my soul fly
    Just let my soul fly
    Just let my soul fly free!!!

    Pressure building on my soul
    I ask God to take control
    Give me guidance in this world

    Conquer this fear spiritually
    Forever let it be
    Into infinity

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    mamislim. presmjesno. preinfantilno.

    .

    ...
    There is an empire in the boundaries of Hell
    Where only the death can reach and only demons reign
    Place of lust, blasphemy and eternal darkness

    Illusions of the darkness
    Power of death
    strength of Hell
    Empire of the damned
    On the black hills of Meggido you'll find
    A place so cold as the mist, so dark as the night
    Black armies march to the hills
    To make power of the reign of darkness crow

    The exterminating angels
    Here there's to be emperor
    To command Nospheratus
    Creature of crypts
    From the eternal darkness
    A blade will shine
    Saints and Gods will judged
    Killed and buried


    One day this empire will be discovered
    For the judgement of mankind
    Gnash of teeth and endless cries will be heard
    The Hell there's to bury, the Heaven there's to dethrone

    In the quitness of Heaven
    And in the orgy of hades
    An empire will raise
    Against the churches
    And against the priests
    It'll be like a concentration camp

    A desolate place
    Where the sun will be black as the darkness

    Antichrist

    Born from Hell
    The supreme force of evil
    To destroy the altar
    And slaughter the christian's born


    Churches will be destroyed
    Crosses will be brocken

    He's laughing in blasphemy
    Like a domination of death

    ....

    Antichrist

    The terror is declared
    The final fight started
    The Antichrist and Lucifer
    Fighting with angels and God


    ...

    Crucified, killed, buried
    Sacrificed messiah
    Kneeled down, blood stained

    The cristians, today they still cry
    But the bastards adore images
    Remembrances from the past, from the crucifixion
    Rotting christ, nailed to cross

    From the semen of the mankind
    We'll spread our seed
    And we'll show to the devoted
    The truth, painful truth

    Cry preachers
    Because your Gods has forgotten
    The antichrist there is to prove

    Death and destruction will still reign

    ...

    Catastrophe and destruction
    Mankind is slaughtered without mercy
    Suphul clouds are in the air
    Legions winds corrose the universe

    The messiahs, redeemers of mankind
    Chained in the valley of Hades
    Crowds blinded by evil
    Only death is real


    Total destruction
    Walls of churches stained by blood
    Altars burning in the flames
    The doom cries out for insanity

    ......


    naravno od istog autora.

    u interwievu na direktno pitanje: How much has religion played a part in your life?

    Max odgovara vrlo laicki i nepotkovano: People from all over the world, people from all different cultures, spirituality…like the guy that believes in Buddha, and maybe the other guy believes in Jesus but they share the same common belief to God, which is the higher force.(krivo! budizam i krscanstvo nemaju nista zajednickog). So I kind of look at myself more of a spiritual, if there’s such a thing. It’s not a religion, you know, I guess there’s not a religion called “Spiritual.” You find spiritual people. But yeah, I think the little bit that has entered my life and I felt was rightfully to put on the songs. I felt strong enough to put it on the songs. But I don’t like when people confuse me with actually being religious.

    tak da ovo tvoje da je "strašan primjer pravog vjernika" je pudac u prasinu. poof

    btw inace se potpisivao sa Max Possessed.

    p+r

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    I šta?? Ti misliš da on nije vjernik??? Koje je tvoje mišljenje o njemu, šta si time rekao!?
    Šta je on, neki luđak??
    Nisam baš znao o tome, valjda se obratio, to mi ništa ništa ne znači. To je pisao ranije, jebi ga čovjek je stvarno prošao kroz svašta.
    Upoznat sam sa tekstovima od rootsa, pa nešto i sa chaos a.d., pa nadalja s ovim iz Soulflya, nigdje nisam našao greške! Mislim baš velike, ne mogu reći da sam u svemu 100% s njim ali strašan je!

    Ma šta krivo!? budizam i kršćanstvo nemaju ništa zajedničko?? ja ne znam skoro ništa o budizmu ali i ono što sam načuo je jako slično kršćanstvu, naravno da ima velikih razlika, ali ima i razlika i u samom kršćanstvu!! pa i ja sam protiv religija, djeljenja... ja sam samo slučajno katolik, tu živim, ali kao prvo ja vjerujem u Boga i Isusa!!
    Lofi ti si daleko od nekih shvaćanja a misliš da si ne znam ni ja šta...
    pa ta izjava koju si stavio je super, potpuno se slažem s tom izjavom!

    potpisivao si se s max possesed... to stvarno govori mnogo! I kod takvog čovjeka ti si si se uhvatio za njegovo zlo! koje je iza njega, uglavnom, ne može biti savršen.

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    Evo ti i jedan tekst koji ide uz tu izjavu, s kojim se i ja slažem, a i jedan čovjek koji je bio među nama prije mnogo godina je rekao da mi svi trebamo postati jedno…

    Soulfly - One
    ...
    One
    One soul
    One heart
    One man
    One truth
    One tribe
    One life
    One god
    ...

    One
    One fate
    One rise
    One sky
    One breed
    One pain
    One Light
    One fire

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    Sotono, šta kažeš na ovaj tekst?!
    Isti autor

    Prejudice
    ...
    If dirty people are all I can see
    Then in their eyes the same dirt covers me
    Take off the blindfold, it's time to enlighten
    Come out of the wickedness, step out of the night
    One man's agony is another man's joy
    For self satisfaction we're prepared to destroy
    One man, one earth and one destiny
    To kill Satan and give God the glory...

    Nemaš šane lofi, nisi u toku! max je na našoj strani!
    A da misliš i osjećaš otprilike kao ja znao bi da je i na tvojoj!

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    nisam ja na nicijoj "strani". cavalera (a pogotovo mu brat bubnjar) je odlican i uspjesan glazbenik i pise ono sto mu padne napamet u kreativnom trenutnku bez da puno razmislja o tome tj. ako se uopce sjeti od silne gandje i alkohola.

    to sto ti otvaras teme sa ovako bombasticnim naslovima stampanim slovima koje to je drugo.

    mozda samo da zaljepis poster u sobi bilo bi dovoljno

    glazba sluzi kao inspiracija i sto bi nietche rekao "bez glazbe zivot bi bio greska" tako da drago mi je da te maxova glazba inspirira ali zakljucci koje si ti izveo iz njegovih tekstova su presmjesni

    covjek radi svoj posao. on je glazbenik. ocigledno svakim albumom prica drugu pricu i to je okej. no vec se potrosio i vrijeme mu je za mirovinu

    ti kazes "ja sam samo slučajno katolik, tu živim, ali kao prvo ja vjerujem u Boga i Isusa!!" i to je sasvim dobar znak da ili si vrlo mlad (u tom slucaju isprike) ili fakat neznas sto pricas (u tom slucaju shuttuppaa buddy)

    btw. i dalje stojim iza toga da max apsolutno nije "strašan primjer pravog vjernika" kao sto ti tvrdis (npr TigarZG1 bi ga teoloski razvalio u sekundi i rijecima i djelima i zivotom). ali nema veze zabavljaj se i plz cuvaj usi, kloni se droge i to ti je najozbiljniji savijet koji ti mogu uputiti u svezi ove blentave teme i heavy metal glazbe opcenito.

    p+r

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